Showing posts with label open carry. Show all posts
Showing posts with label open carry. Show all posts

Saturday, April 2, 2016

Felon is not the default position in this country

A few years ago I was pulled over on the way home from a hockey game.  I had only had one drink but hadn't used a restroom in several hours so stopped on the side of an on-ramp to relieve myself.  Looking back, a tactical error, but at the time it seemed reasonable.  I was very tired and still twenty minutes from home.  A quick stop and I'd be on my way.  Unfortunately a sheriff happened to be nearby and decided that I might be DUI.  I don't blame him for that.

As he pulled up I notified him that I had my .45 on my hip and a permit in my wallet.  He disarmed me, cuffed me in the back of his cruiser, and checked my ID.  None of this was, in my opinion, unreasonable, given the late night circumstances and the possibility that I had been drinking.  However, there is one part to this story that really bothered me.  He ran the serial number of my gun through dispatch.  I verbally objected and he told me that he had to make sure it wasn't stolen.

What?  Given the requirement that an officer have what is called "reasonable, articulable suspicion" that a crime has been committed prior to detaining or searching an individual (other than what is necessary for "officer safety", a problematic term in and of itself), what possible suspicion could the officer have had that an individual in a legally registered car with no wants or warrants on his license and a valid concealed carry permit would be carrying a stolen firearm?

Which brings us to The United States of America Vs Nathanial Black.  Black was hanging out with some friends in the parking lot of their apartment complex in North Carolina.  Police officers decided that hanging out in a parking lot was suspicious and seven officers stopped to investigate.  One of the men notified the officers that he had a firearm openly carried on his hip, an action that is legal in North Carolina, as in Washington state.  The officers then disarmed that man and started frisking the rest and asking for identification.  Black attempted to leave and it was then discovered that he was illegally in possession of a firearm as he had prior criminal record.

The police  justification at trial for the search was that they had no way to know whether the first man, who was openly carrying his firearm, was legally allowed to own a firearm unless they checked his record by obtaining his identification and running a check.

In other words, the police presumption in this case, as in mine, was that a man carrying a gun was a criminal unless it could be proved that he was not.  Anyone see anything wrong with that presumption?

Fortunately the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals recognized that this goes against everything our legal system is designed to accomplish.  They made the following statement in their decision:

Troupe’s gun was legally possessed and displayed. The Government contends that because other laws prevent convicted felons  from  possessing  guns,  the  officers  could  not  know whether  Troupe  was  lawfully  in  possession  of  the  gun  until they  performed  a  records  check.  Additionally,  the  Government  avers  it  would  be  "foolhardy"  for  the  officers  to  "go about their business while allowing a stranger in their midst
to possess a firearm." We are not persuaded.

Being a felon in possession of a firearm is not the default status. More importantly, where a state permits individuals to openly carry firearms, the exercise of this right, without more, cannot  justify  an  investigatory  detention.

Emphasis mine.  This is the exact argument that has been made about friends of mine here in Washington when they were stopped for carrying a firearm.  The police cannot assume that just because you are carrying that you might be committing a crime.  Carrying alone does not rise to the level of reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime.  Good news even though only applicable to the Fourth Circuit, these cases can and are often used to create case law in other districts.

Someone will probably come along and make the argument that you shouldn't open carry, and that you are just asking to be harassed by the police if you do so I will address it pre facto.  That is irrelevant.  The law allows  you to open carry in my state, as in North Carolina, as in many other states.  In fact open carry is the norm when it comes to law.  Only six states prohibit open carry of a firearm although some do require that you have a carry permit in order to openly carry.  Since the law allows it, the presumption is therefore that if you are openly carrying, or if you are carrying concealed but the firearm becomes visible due to any one of a number of circumstances (printing on your shirt, the wind lifting your jacket, changing from a heavy jacket to a light one, reaching for your wallet, etc) the police still do not have probably cause to stop you and determine if you are "legally carrying" unless they see some evidence of another crime.

Good news for those of us interested in a freer state, one where the government is less intrusive and the police don't routinely violate our right of free passage through the use of pretextual stops.

You can read the opinion here.  It does date back to 2013 so is a couple years old, but worth having in your repertoire of useful case law.

Monday, May 27, 2013

Musings

Enchiladas in the oven. Green sauce, chicken enchiladas. My favorite. 12 more minutes so figured I'd quickly get down some stuff from the past couple weeks. 

Listening to Train's latest, California 37 , in my classroom. Student observes that this is the first time he's heard me playing anything later than 2000. I tactfully don't tell him that Train had their first hit (Meet Virginia) in 1998 when he was one year old. (I am know for my tact throughout my extended family. In fact, if they forget my name they just say "the tactful one" and everyone knows they mean me). Thinking about his comment, however, I realize that I don't buy nearly as much music as I used to. I have about 14,000 songs on my ipod so I guess I just don't feel the need to get more at the same rate. (Or maybe today's music is crap and I don't get how these young kids can listen to this noise). Just kidding, of course. Lot's of good stuff out there.

Speaking of good stuff, here's some that isn't so much. Listened to some music by Alexisonfire the other day. Great name, but good grief. The lead singer (and I use the word loosely) mostly just screams. The one song I heard was interesting (which is why I went looking for more), but then when I went to listen to the more it got old reeaal fast. Oh well, to each their own.

Jonesing to get out of town about now. Three weeks left in school, fifteen days to go. I really want to be somewhere else right now. Been to Portland twice in the last couple months on the bike, once in the pouring rain, once in the bright sunshine, plus went camping in Wenatchee last weekend.

Oh yeah, Wenatchee camping. Rained most of the way there, howling gales while we were there, rained part of the way back, had a great time. Good company, tons of excellent food, good riding (if you remember that I missed most of last summer and it's been a cold winter that makes more sense). It was some of the folks from OCDO, a campout that has become an annual event. My first but will definitely return. Rode Highway 2 over Stephen's Pass and what a nice ride, even in the rain. Waterfalls, fog, trees, vistas, then dropping down into Leavenworth by the river which is scenic enough to be dangerously distracting. Saturday took off for a little ride up through Chelan on the west side of the Columbia, crossed over north of Chelan and came back down the east side (a side I've ridden more than once as that becomes Highway 2 down towards Wenatchee). It was tempting to turn left and head east across country but I am responsible (and all my camping gear was back in Wenatchee).

Picked up some nice new items for motorcycle camping. I think I'll make that its own blog post.

Well, enchiladas are ready and I have to do some grading so I'll hit the camping gear highlights tomorrow.